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>> eyjafhallajokull. >> banana-rama... it shows no signs of abating! >>. bill: you have our sim partiyms thanks for watching, bye-bye. >> i'm jane skinner. breaking news. >> i'm jon scott, we are getting word of a barricaded suspect, maybe several suspects inside a home, in peoria, arizona, a suburb of phoenix, harris is on the breaking news, what do you know. >> reporter: i tell you, this is like peeling away an onion, for police in arizona, they got a call about a burglary inside the home and got there, on the first floor a person, they found bound, we don't know what condition that person is in, that was the first indication of something going very wrong. and, that person was able to speak and said between 5 and 10
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people had sort of a home invasion and are still inside the home and it is unclear, how many are there but police barricaded the area, possibly armed suspects, according to the person -- i'm checking my blackberry -- according to the person they first got to, no injuries reported so far and we know at least that person, who was bound was not badly hurt and those are initial -- this is just coming in, also brand new, and, and, there are other people, who might have been in the home at the time, who could have been hurt in this and 5 to 10 people, home invasions, and, look at the center right of your screen, you see a tactical picture there to give an idea of the law enforcement response to this, they have just crawled all over the property, and we have been seeing canines and swat members of the police and fire departments there as they set up a barricade, 71st avenue and korecor
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corine drive, and i'll jump off and get on the phone and find out about the breaking story, out of peoria, arizona. jon and jane. >> thanks, stay on it. the white house is trying to rally public and senate support for financial reform on wall street. the president predicts a big political battle. at a campaign rally last night, for california senator barbara boxer, the president saying, regulatory reform is worth the fight, to prevent another financial melt down. now we're hearing democrats, looking for republican support, could end up dropping a proposed $50 billion fund, to liquidate failed firms. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell says both sides agree on one things, no more bailouts. eric bolling with "fox business" network is live in our newsroom, with more, and is this a case where democrats want reform and republicans don't? >> john, the republicans don't not reform, just like they didn't not want health care reform. they don't want it sweeping and
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as overencompassing and just massive reform, the democrats are proposing. look what they want to do. they want to -- now in the bill, a $50 billion slush fund so that if a firm, company is too big to fail, maybe they can tap into that and maybe not allow to it fail and republicans say, you know what? there is nothing too big to fail and we tried that and the bailouts and it didn't create jobs, let's not go up that road again and get rid of the $50 billion fund, i think the republicans are saying, basically, yes, there are gaps, there are things we need to do and need to close loopholes and fix some things, but we don't have to go so far as to really drive the whole banking system, and that is really what might happen, that is the risk if you become overregulated. the banks won't do business here and, they can go to europe and, still try and bank in the u.s. >> some republicans say if you put the $50 billion fund there, it creates incentive almost for wall street, to take risky investments, because they say, oh, the government will backstop us. >> that is called the law of
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unintended consequences and we saw that and different companies were saying, hey we'll get bailed out and continue to do these things that caused the financial melt down and, they ended up needing help. don't do that and don't become so onerous and expensive to do begin, and difficult to do business in the u.s., that you drive the banking system overseas, that is very very, dangerous and we want a banking system, we want one that doesn't take undue risk with the depositors' money and that is important here, investment bank versus depositors' money, has been very, very close. we want to maybe separate it a little bit. >> eric bolling with the fox business network. thanks. jane. >> everybody loves' winner, right? or be a winner, unless you are goldman sachs today, the investment bank is reporting huge first quarter earnings. almost $3.5 billion. in first three months of the year, and all comes just days after the firm was accused of fraud, by the federal government. adam shapiro from fbn is at the headquarters. what is the reaction?
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>> reporter: the reaction inside is they are defending themselves against the charges and had and earnings call and the majority of question from other bank analysts had to do with the fraud charges against goldman sachs. and essentially saying the charges are unfounded. they are defending themselves, claiming even they lost $100 million in this whole deal. >> how much money in terms of the amount of money, the big loss, there, is it a valid defense? in terms of what analysts are seeing? >> that is a great question. okay? you got goldman sachs saying they lost $100 million, on this transaction. involving what is called a synthetic cbo. and they are saying that, but the other part of the question is did you intend to hold the position long? long term? and they were asked that question, and they certainly looked at selling it, according to the legal counsel, look at trying to sell it and analysts have told and quoted "the new york times," that goldman wanted to sell -- couldn't silt, because the mortgage market had already tanked.
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and that is subsequently why they lost 100 million. >> what does it mean for the increased regulation potentially on the bank and on others? >> one thing that was also reported in the earnings report, this morning, is that the compensation, what they paid to the 33,000 people, who work in goldman sachs, worldwide is down to roughly a ratio of 43%, and, bonuses will be around 5.5 billion. forget the percentage. 5.5 billion will be fodder for politicians, who want to shoot new canons at goldman sachs and other financial firms on wall street. >> adam shapiro outside the headquarters and he'll let us know if anything else develops on that front, thanks, a scary report out of the pentagon, saying iran could develop a missile capable of hitting the u.s. within five years. adding the efforts to enrich large quantities of uranium, and we could be facing a real deal, a real nuclear threat to the hoped and the report ads iran's military strategy is to defend
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against potential threats from israel and the u.s., and the nation likely views nuclear weapons as a key deterrent. thai soldiers in full combat gear guarding fancy hotels and stores at bangkok and protesters have been targeting the high end district more than a month now, and now are camping in nearby main roads covering several city blocks and the group's leaders are waging a big war, to topple the government which they consider illegitimate. >> planes are finally flying again in europe after they were grounded for five days. by the drifting cloud of volcanic ash from ice land. a new wave of ash is on the way, spreading toward great britain and london airports likely will remain closed for at least another day. these dramatic photos show the lightning above the volcano and lava and ash erupting from the vent and low energy lightning is active during eruptions, arcing
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between partles as they strike the volcano and, travellers are stuck at airports are if they are lucky hotels but are growing broke waiting to get home. greg burke is streaming live from rome. how are people coping there, greg? >> reporter: jon, that is a good question and jackson hole, wyoming has never seemed so far away and i ran into a group of 30 people this morning, they do not expect to get out until next tuesday. a week from today. that is because though the airports in italy are open today the flights are so backed up, they were supposed to fly out of milan and then out of munich and they are not making it. people are coping by just forgetting about it, taking it easy or are really trying hard, going to the airport every day, calling up the airlines, and screaming at them, but, even those people, often find out they are not getting anywhere. >> this morning, we tried... the flight is cancelled and this
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earliest flight now is on thursday. we have been traveling since last wed. with no money, no food, and nobody to help. >> reporter: that's the situation, here. and looks like a beautiful day and it is a high tourist season here, obviously but if you are stuck at an airport all day and have no food and no money it is tough. >> i imagine rome not such a bad place to be stuck, i can think of worse places. but, can the u.s. embassy help these people? >> reporter: well, the embassy says, yes. give us a call and have a line for that, however, the amount of real help they can give, is not too much, to tell you the truth. they can get you in touch with relatives and figure out a wire transfer so you can get money but they are basically not either handing out money or a place to sleep. the ambassador does have a very big house and a very big yard here, so maybe he could pulp the
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4th of july party a little early and invite everybody who is stuck here, a huge barbecue, that would work but i'm not sure they'll do that. >> what a mess. greg burke live from rome, thanks. >> firefighters in one part of michigan say they, today, are at the breaking pointed. so far, in the month of april more than 100 fires, one more just broke out this morning, are they the work of potentially the same people? and the supreme court with a decision why animal rights activists call it a blow to efforts to stop animal cruelty. finally, what i love is what my skin needs.
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>> now news from the supreme court. the high court today striking down a federal law aimed at banning videos that show graphic violence against animals. the justices voting 8-1, to throw out the conviction of a virginia man, sentenced to prison for a video he made about pit bull fights. chief justice roberts saying a law enacted in 1999 meant to
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limit internet sales of certain animal cruelty videos, went too far. in the case. and justice alito says in his defense, that the harm animals suffer in dogfights is enough to saws taken the law, we'll have more on this somewhat controversial decision next hour. >> firefighters are stretched to the limits in flint, michigan, right now more than a dozen fires broke out over the weekend. there were 12 in 12 hours. another we have learned, just this morning. so the total for the month of april, so far, 130 fires, three times what they are used to handling, in that department and the city's fire battalion chief is on the phone with us. chief, what is going on here? are these related? >> caller: at this time we are unable to ascertain that. but, we do know that the greater part of them are arson because they are being set, to vacant commercial buildings and vacant homes. >> what would be the motive for that? >> oh, there could be numerous motives. now it appears that they want to
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see us work. i don't know, ma'am. >> there is a report, at least one of the fires, somebody saw kids leaving the building before they saw the flames. is it possible it is just a bunch of juveniles causing problems. >> caller: there are all kinds of possibilities but that is one, yes. and we have heard that all, they are looking at the gangs. >> has anybody been hurt. >> caller: yes, three now have been hurt and we have had a pulled hamstring, elbow injury and inhalation injury. >> three firefighters and anybody in the public, any inside any of these houses or buildings? >> caller: right now we have been so lucky, that we have not hurt or lost any public -- any people, very lucky. >> and it is like many towns in michigan and the country, have been hard hit by the economy and i know you have had layoffs in your department and now it sound like, you will be bringing some of those laid off workers back to deal with this? >> yes. right now we are hearing that good news and hoping, i'm sure, right now, they are working on
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that. our administration, and our public officials are working together, to get our firefighters back. >> battalion chief, keep us updated if you will. >> caller: i sure will, thank you. >> thank, jon? >> back to arizona in just a moment. where we are keeping an eye on a story of barricaded suspects inside a house, apparently one of the people, in that home, tied up, as a part of this home invasion, and the stand-off continues. harris will be on it for us in a moment and also, dozens of deaths, hundreds of crashes, and, a massive fine for safety violations, for toyota, it seems like there is more bad news every day. so why are sales booming? for the automaker? and, many of you watched the story unfold live, here on "happening now" a texas man, crashes his light plane, into an irs building in austin texas. now the 911 calls from that terrifying day, are out. we'll play some of them, in just three minutes.
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>> they say there is no such thing as bad publicity, take toyota for example. despite the recall scandal the automaker's sales are still strong and now toyota is recalling the luxury brand lexus gx 460 suv. and "consumer reports" say the model is prone to rollover accidents and investigators are asking now, questions about the gas pedal of a toyota avalon involved in a fury crash, sunday. so far more than 40 deaths have been linked to the defective gas pedals in various models. and phil keating has more from our miami bureau and i guess, just yesterday, toyota paid the record fine, right, phil? >> reporter: right, jon, $16.4 million, the largest fine ever imposed by the u.s. government, against an automaker and that for concealing the recall involving the sticking gas pedal issue. and that impacted 8 million recalled vehicles, worldwide. now, the latest recall involves
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the lexus gx 460. a luxury suv which "consumer reports" first identified as liable to tip over and with the fine, toyota admits no wrongdoing. and i will quote from the executives, we are proud of the vehicle, that toyota produces and are confident they're among the safest on the road as our actions, since the recalls were announced underscore we are intensely focused on listening even more carefully to our customers and addressing any issues that emerge without delay, and keep in mind, that was issued because u.s. law states in an automaker knows of a safety problem it has five days to notify the public and government and in this case the transportation department says toyota took four months. >> despite all the recalls, despite all the bad publicity, toyota's sales are doing pretty well, right? >> yes, february was a bad month for toyota, however in march, last month, sales shot up, in the u.s., 41% over march, '09. and despite the fact that a recent month toyota has recalled
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quite a number of the vehicles. 14 different makes and models, have been recalled for things such as uncontrolled acceleration, and braking problems and dealers in south florida and nationwide say the customers keep coming and one dealer explains it as simply delivering years of customer satisfaction. >> i believe that brand loyalty was a major factor. i think the incentives, was definitely a big key in the leasing. >> and those incentives, by the way, on leased and as well as new car sales, tallied to about $2300. >> and the fine they paid yesterday doesn't end it for them, does it. >> reporter: no. no. no. the federal government and the house commerce and -- energy and commerce committee, is also calling toyota executives back to the hot seat on may 6th, there are also dozens of personal liability for wrongful
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death and personal injury lawsuits and there are more fines, potentially coming towards toyota and also, potentially, the criminal courts. >> phil keating, live in miami, thank you. >> 911 calls reveal frightening moments after a man intentionally crashed his small plane into an irs building, back in february. police in austin, texas, have released the 911 calls, placed after the crash on the 18th of february and the pilot and one other person died and here's some of what we are hearing: >> police fire ems... i'm not sure. we witness aid plane crashing on 183, southbound. we think it hit a building, that -- the echelon building. >> the airplane, ma'am. >> a private plane. >> there is a fire... >> what kind. >> house fire. >> smoke coming out. >> you are 100% certain a plane went into the building. >> eye witnesses, plane into the building. >> can you see from where you are. >> lots of smoke and people are running over there.
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>> my god! like four floors. martha: joseph stack, the pilot explained his motive in a rambling anti-government manifesto on a web site. he also set his family's home on fire shortly before he took off. >> an important milestone on the road to peace in iraq and they take out top leaders of al qaeda. is it the end for the terror group behind so much violence? or maybe just a new beginning? >> the former leader of aqi, the ones who plotted, planned and executed terrorist attacks against iraqis in recent past, as well as against americans. their deaths are potentially devastating blows to al qaeda iraq. >> we'll talk about that in a moment and live pictures from los angeles, air force one is there, tackying and readying for take off as the president is leaving, he went to a series of fund-raisers last night, for north barbara boxer and tomorrow will be in new york city, to talk about the financial reform
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overhaul bill. i'm sorry. thursday, it is only tuesday, jon. thursday, he'll be in new york, on his way back to washington now as we watch the live pictures. we'll be right back.
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morning. several people are right now, we're told, most likely still holed up inside that house. you can see the s.w.a.t. team, they've been patrolling the house for a while now. jon: somebody, we presume one of the homeowners or occupants, bound inside. harris faulkner, we understand, is back with us and able to hear. harris? harris: yeah. you know, what i can tell you right now is that the oakwood elementary school which is very close by, we can see school staff outside that school putting up signs. they are located near this barricade at 71st avenue. what we're told at this point is they're possibly on lockdown as police trying try to secure thie and go in the and get out potentially as many as 10-15 people who one witness says went into that home. when police first arrived after a call of burglary on this home, it's been a couple of hours now, there was a person who was tied up on the first floor and the back door had been kicked in.
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they rescued that person. we don't, again, know their condition, but we're told there are no injuries to report, so we're hopeful that that person was not badly hurt in the process of being bound, but that person was able to give some information. they then came overhead with choppers. we can't go very close to the s.w.a.t. team because they always like us to stay back so they don't see their activity. if there's a police in the house, they could be watching. right now they're overhead with choppers helping that s.w.a.t. team figure out which way to go so they don't lose one of these guys out one of the doors. the public information officer from both the fire and police departments is at scene. we've been e-mailing back and forth. hopefully, i'll get some fresh information very, very soon. back to you. jane: okay, harris, thanks. harris sure. jon: bottom of the hour, time to update you on our top stories. "happening now" in the top box, new fears of an even bigger eruption soon at another icelandic volcano, this as some
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flights finally get back into the air. in the middle box, a boost for marco rubio on his bid to become the gop candidate in the florida senate race. today the number two republican in the house, congressman eric cantor, endorsed rubio over governor charlie crist. bottom box, goldman sachs announcing first quarter earnings almost doubled to $3.4 billion. this comes as a fraud case looms against that well-known company. jane: well, today there's word that yet another high-ranking leader of al-qaeda in iraq has been killed. he was killed during an early morning operation, we're told, and this comes after news that two other top leaders were killed in a joint u.s. and iraqi raid. al-masri and al-baghdadi, the two you see here, were killed early on sunday near saddam hussein's hometown. the question now is will
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somebody step into their shoes? it's happened many, many times before. james stanley is a fellow at the institute for the study of war, he worked with general petraeus on the surge. good to see you. your thoughts on who these people actually were. we're still getting, you know, initial information on the one this morning and what potentially happens. who fills their shoes, if anyone? are there people as experienced as they are out there? >> well, the, the two who were killed on sunday, al-masri and al-baghdadi, were the two key leaders in al-qaeda iraq. al-masri had taken over from zarqawi when he was kill inside 2006, and baghdadi had a position as the self-proclaimed head of the islamic republic of iraq and was the head of the shur council which was sort of an umbrella organization of
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terrorist networks that were opposed to american presence in the country. it is important to note that al-masri took over from zarqawi almost immediately upon zarqawi's death. i was a lieutenant in 2006 just after zarqawi was killed, and though often people look at these actions, these removals of terrorist leaders as being killing blows to the terrorist organizations, in fact, after zarqawi's death violent went up in 2006-7, not down, and it wasn't until the surgery and the implementation of a counterinsurgency strategy that we managed to tamp down the violence that zarqawi's successors brought to iraq. jane: we're going to put some pictures on the screen of the courses of these two men to prove actually they had been killed. we want to let everybody know they're a bit graphic so if you need to turn away, you should.
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we heard vice president bide withen say these deaths of these two are potentially devastating blows to iraq, potentially devastating. how would you characterize them? >> well, they are very important. there is always a short-term gain, always, when a terrorist leader is killed or captured. and unlike in 2006 when zarqawi was removed, this is potentially much more devastating to al-qaeda because they've been very badly treated by coalition, that is u.s. and iraqi military actions over the past couple of years. so it's unlikely that they're going to be able to find anybody. their reach is not as deep as it used to be, and it's unlikely they're going to find somebody quite as talented to take over from maas ri's shoes. one thing that's also important is that in the run up to the election and immediately after the election in iraq which was on the 7th of march, al-qaeda was attempting to enflame
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tensions as much as possible, and as the various blocs are trying to form coalitions to lead the government, they were conducting attacks to enflame sectarian violence and alter the outcomes of negotiations. and have this set of very good security gains is important for maliki who's attempting to forge a coalition right now. the reason is he's basically run on a platform that brought security to a war-torn iraq back in 2006 and '7. jane: lieutenant james stanley, thanks for your thoughts. >> thank you. jon: let's take you to capitol hill where right now a house committee is digging into what led to the lehman prepares collapse. the investment bank's former chief executive telling his story to the house financial services committee. our jenna lee joins us from the fox business network to tell us who's there and what it means to the rest of us. jenna: the big question right now, jon, is who exactly was minding the store here? this is one of the largest corporate bankruptcies in our
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history, it shook the entire financial system, so who knew what when? right now it looks like they're taking some live images from that hearing at this time. let me walk you through the cast of characters starting off with dick folds, the former ceo of lehman brothers. in the report there are charges that dick folds knew that the bank was taking on huge amount of risk and putting it on other balance sheets so that the board of directors and shareholders didn't really know what trouble the bank was in. dick fuld says this wasn't the case, and he says the federal reserve and the sec knew everything that was happening at this bank leading to its bankruptcy, so that leads us to the federal reserve chairman, ben bernanke. ben bernanke says, sure, we had two of our agents there at lehman brothers since march of 2008 until september 2008 after bear stearns collapsed until lehman brothers collapsed, and the agents were there finding out what was going on and extending at times certain lending facilities or funds to
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this bank. but they had no supervisory role although they were able to share some of that information they gain with the the sec. now, the sec's chairman, mary schapiro, is going to be testifying as well. she wasn't the chairman at the time, christopher cox was. the sec is going to say there's parts of this bank we weren't able to regulate, and we could not dictate to them how much risk they could take on, so our hands were tied as well. so you can see we're kind of going around and around. the bankruptcy examiner's report says the sec did, indeed, know about some of these shifty accounting processes at lehman brothers, but again, that's what this hearing is supposed to discover for some of us, what happened here, how do we prevent it from happening again, and as i mentioned, all municipalities were affected by this, lost upwards of $2 billion. jon: sure. jenna: and we saw what happened to the markets after this, so we need some answers. jon: jenna lee, thank you. jane: the fence is supposed to
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protect our southern borders, some say it's leaking like sieve. more and more violence. a couple of u.s. senators say it is time to send in some troops. in,
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jon: there's a major push underway to get more firepower on the u.s. southern border. happening right now, a senate homeland security committee meeting on that issue. there's senator joe lieberman listening to some of the testimony. it is fairly easy for illegals to cross the border on foot. you know that. drug violence in mexico is adding to the push. last night on "the o'reilly factor" senator john mccain laid out his plan to crack down on this illegal border crossing. >> we need to have troops down there on the border, and we need to have an increase in the number of border patrol. we need to do this operation streamline where you convict people who are illegals who are, and put them in prison for a while. jon: this push for tougher
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measures stems in part from the death of robert krantz, a wrap wrap -- rancher. let's talk about with that'd bing l, former chief of staff at customs and border protection. thad, we are already boosted the number of border patrol officers, we're up to 20,000 now? >> that's right, jon. jon: given the ongoing problems at the border, why not send in the national guard? >> well, it could be part of a solution, jon, but it's not a silver bullet. we did deploy large numbers of national guard troops just a few years ago, and while that was helpful, it was most helpful in mission support roles, building fences and roads, helping with surveillance, repairing vehicles. if the we're going to do it, it should be decided by close coordination between the department of defense and homeland security about where those make sense and what occupations they should fill, but no one should be deluded to
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think the national guard is anything but a short-term fix. jon: isn't it true, though, that most of the illegals, something like 60% of is the illegals who come into this country come across the border of arizona? >> it is the most active state. the tucson sector has been the most active area of crossings for the past decade. however, in the midst of this bad news we have to remember those numbers overall are significantly down from where they were just a decade ago. we're talking about a 23% reduction just in the last year, and overall we've gone from nearly a million people crossing the border illegally to less than half of that now. jon: but can't you attribute some of that to the fact that the economy in this country is in the tank, and there aren't the jobs available that would have brought some of these people across to begin with? >> that's certainly a factor. as with the increased resources we put on the border, but now we need to sustain those borders. it's not a short-term thing.
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you can't staff increased border patrol agents for just a year or two. it takes a sustained commitment over the course of a decade. we didn't get in this problem overnight and with the violence of the cartels, they're determined no matter what to continue their incursions and bring narcotics into the country. jon: doesn't that argue for the. national guard? i mean, if you can't ramp up border patrol agents that quickly, you've got national guardsmen at the ready for the governor to call out, doesn't it argue for using them at least as a stopgap? >> it may, jon, and in addition to them, some of the other points that senators mccain and kyl would also be helpful. you know, additional technology, more funding, really, for the prosecution side of this and the detention side. we focus a lot on border patrol agents or national guard on the front lines patrolling, but behind that you need to put people in jail, you need prosecutors, you need detention facilities, you need grants to the state and local agencies who also have to deal with this
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problem even though it's a federal responsibility. jon: thad, thank you. you know jack a fight -- jane: a fight shaping up between congress and the white house. two leading senators say the obama administration is withholding information. at issue are documents on suspected shooter major nidal hassan. what will the white house do? are discovering what's going on with their feet. dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic center. backed by foot care scientists, its foot mapping technology identifies the areas you put pressure on then recommends the right orthotic. for locations see [ male announcer ] your home is their home. but now you can build a barrier that kills bugs dead! introducing raid max bug barrier. its auto trigger lets you lay down a continuous, longlasting barrier. like the pros do. [ ant ] i'm in! i'm out. raiiid?!! [ pow! ] [ male announcer ] build a barrier indoors and out. with new raid max bug barrier.
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jane: the obama administration is holding back crucial information in the fort hood shooting investigation according to congress. major nidal hassan is accused of killing 13 people. the homeland security committee is issuing a subpoena to the white house for access to documents and witness statements. here's what susan collins of maine had to say just before the
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subpoena was sent. >> unfortunately, the department of defense and the department of justice still are refusing to cooperate. that will leave our committee with no choice but to issue those subpoenas. jane: the white house, which has promised greater transparency, is deflecting questions on the issue. they talked about it a bit at yesterday's press briefing, take a listen. >> we pointed, i think, you and others over to the defense department last week as to how they're conducting their investigation. >> [inaudible] at dod? >> the department of defense is handling this investigation, i would urge you to call them and seek an answer to your question. jane: national correspondent catherine herridge is live in d.c. what's been the reaction on the hill? >> reporter: well, this morning, jane, senator john mccain told "fox & friends" that his two colleagues would not have taken this action unless it was absolutely necessary.
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>> joe lieberman and susan collins would not issue the subpoenas if they didn't feel frustrated. they are not the kind to leap into something. they've been trying to get the information they think is necessary. for them to carry out their duties as chair and co-chair of the homeland security committee, i think it's clear they feel these sub subpoenas are necessay because they're not getting the information through the normal methods. >> reporter: the two senators, according to their aides, feel that they want to take a look at the evidence to understand whether there's a gap in the system that would make another attack similar to what happened at fort hood likely. so their focus is preventing future attacks as opposed to handling the prosecution of the case. jane: and, katherine, what specifically are the smarts trying -- senators trying to determine in these documents? >> reporter: first and foremost, major nidal hasan's army personnel file. they want to see if, in fact,
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there was a history, a recorded series of events that showed that major nidal hasan had extremist tendencies and that he might be capable of an act of terrorism. secondly and perhaps most significantly is they want to see the e-mails that were exchanged between major hassan and the american cleric in yemen,al awlaki. they want to understand the context of those e-mails. what's important to note here is whether there's a consistent policy by the obama white house in their release of these types of documents. on friday the justice department released dozens of pages of e-mails from the cia that are part of an ongoing investigation of the destruction of interrogation tapes. however, when it comes to fort hood, the position of dod, the defense department and the justice department is that they don't want to release this material because they want to preserve the prosecution of the case, and these two positions do
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not seem consistent. jane: catherine herridge will continue to follow it from d.c. thank you. jon: we are joined by charles culley stimson, he's a senior legal fellow at the heritage foundation and former deputy assistant secretary of defense for detainees. this is pretty unusual when you get the democratic-led senate in a battle with the democratic white house, isn't it? >> yeah. remember lieberman is now an independent, and clearly this is a problem for the white house, jon. jon: well, and susan collins of maine also joining the independent joe lieberman in that. but they are dissatisfied. there were a lot of holes or gaps, i guess, in the information that was handed to congress about this guy, nidal hasan, who he is, what motivated him and what his background is. >> yeah. there's a lot of skepticism out there, jon, regarding the noncriminal investigation that was conducted by dod. first they called hassan the alleged shooter, clearly in a
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court of law he's presumed innocent, but nice not the alleged -- he's not the alleged shooter, he did it. it didn't tie him to his faith, his name wasn't even mentioned in the report. it's difficult for the white house. jon: no mention he's a muslim. >> none. none whatsoever in the investigation. that's the noncriminal. but on the legal side, jon, here's the thing, you really don't want to compromise an ongoing criminal investigation, but the question that the white house, dod and doj have here is, clearly, they haven't done enough to satisfy this committee and given them enough information. so i suspect the subpoena won't be enforced, more information will be forthcoming, but you don't want to create an appellate issue for the accused if he's convicted, and you don't want to jeopardize the prosecution here and make them have to try the case more than once. jon: you know, i'm the parent of a future soldier, i can imagine that parents of young soldiers all over the country, you know, want to knock down the doors to make sure that this kind of
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thing doesn't happen again, and it feels like somebody is sort of stonewalling here. >> yeah. well, look at the poll that's up on your web site right now, 92% of the people polled think that the administration's hiding something. whether that's true or not is irrelevant. there's a feeling in the country, at least with respect to hasan, that this is pc run amok. you don't mention his faith ties, you don't mention his name -- jon: you don't mention, you don't mention, you don't mention that he's been in touch with this anwar al-awlaki, this radical cleric over in yemen who was born in america. >> who, by the way, now is on the capture or kill list authorized by the president. clearly, this is a problem. it's a pr problem, it's a legal problem, and they're not going to get everything they want, and it's a political problem for the white house that they need to make go away. jon: but in a word you think there will be something forthcoming that's going to satisfy the senate sh. >> there'll be more information
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forthcoming. how satisfied they are will be a political question. jon: all right. coley stimson, good to talk to you, thanks. jane there's a new word getting a lot of people's attention, potentially we could wake up and one day find iran is not only a nuclear power, but also have missiles that could reach into our backyards. also harris has news breaking out of the standoff in arizona. we've been watching a s.w.a.t. team. they've just gone inside the house where a home invasion occurred earlier. we'll tell you what they have found or what they have not found. nuclear power, but also [ female announcer ] sometimes you need tomorrow
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jon: breaking news as we begin this second hour of "happening now." i'm jon scott. jane: and i'm jane skinner. want to get to harris in the newsroom with more details on what we've been watching outside of harris. harris: i think this is good news although the total picture still hasn't come into focus yet. just got off the phone with a spokesperson for both the police and fire departments in pee yore
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rah, arizona. the s.w.a.t. team has now entered that home and in addition to finding a male resident tied up -- who's unharmed, i'm told -- they found and have reached a woman and a 12-year-old child who are okay inside that home. now the big question is, what about those 5-10 people who were said to have broken in through the back door? they didn't find any suspects inside that house, so now what they've done is started going door to door in that neighborhood. they've evacuated some nearby homes in their search for a possible 5-10 suspects who broke into the home according to the homeowners. police still trying to verify how many people they're looking for. they don't have good descriptions from the homeowners who were there, but a nearby school, oakwood elementary, this is in peoria, arizona, that we're looking at, on a soft lockdown. they were able to get the kids corps donned off in that area, put up signs in the front pardon
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of the school to tell parents that students are going to be locked inside that school until this search is over. police and fire department both responding with heavy tactical units, s.w.a.t. team to this home at 71st avenue in peoria, arizona. by the way, 71st avenue's pretty populated roadway, and they've completely shut that down in this area as they look for potential home invasion suspects. as i learn more, of course, i'll tell you, but the good news potentially in all of this is that all the people who would have been in that home are accounted for so far as we know. a male, a female and a 12-year-old child. back to you. jane: harris, thanks very much. harris: sure. jane: want to take you now to washington where the supreme court has just struck down a ban on images, pictures of animal cruelty. the vote was 8 to 1, it's being called a big victory for first amendment advocates and a big defeat for animal rights advocates. let's get to shannon bream in d.c. for us.
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shannon, what was at stake here? >> reporter: this was all about a case that stemmed out of virginia, a man who was caught editing and selling, marketing videos of pit bullfighting. the case wasn't about the actual fighting, it was about the federal law that bans the images that would be sold, and it was actually aimed initially at these videos of small animals being killed. images that were out there on the internet in the videos and being marketed and sold for profit. ultimately, the court decided those kinds of imimagines don't -- images don't deserve to be banned. when you look at the first amendment, they thought that was a more important free speech issue, so the law's been struck down. jane. jane: why did the justices ultimately decide to do it? >> reporter: we're not talking about the underlying conduct which is just about illegal everywhere in the u.s., can people make free speech that involves animals? they thought this rule was overbrad.
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overbroad. chief justice roberts says including obscenity, defamation, fraud, incitement and speech integral to criminal conduct that have never been thought to raise constitutional problems. jane: who was the lone dissenter, 8 to 1? >> reporter: yeah, it was justice samuel alito, and he wrote a very, very lengthy dissent just about equal to the main opinion. he had a great problem with this, and he cited to something he heard from the humane society in the arguments and said, quote: >> reporter: he was the only one who thought those kinds of interests were strong enough this law should have been upheld, but he was alone in that
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thought, and the statute will fall. jane: isn't that interesting. shannon bream in d.c. for us, shannon, thanks. jon: you know the united states is worried that iran is close to building a nuclear bomb right now, and an ominous new warning. a report just out warns iran could develop a missile capable of striking american soil with a nuclear warhead by the year 2015, just five years from now. fox news obtaining that unclassified report from the defense department as tehran defies calls to stop producing materials needed for nuclear weapons. let's get to mike emanuel live at the pent gob. first of all, the analysis regarding iran's ballistic missile development, where does that come from, mike? >> reporter: well, jon, they're saying essentially iran is spending a lot of time, energy and money on developing that ballistic missile system. around page 11, there's something that will catch the eyes of a lot of people here in the united states. it says, quote:
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>> reporter: that is significant because as they are working on their nuclear weapons program, they are also spending a lot of time and energy and money on that missile program, and so the concern from an american perspective is could that be a nuclear intercontinental ballistic missile capable of reaching the u.s. in just five years? jon: they've also spent a lot of time, energy and money hardening their nuclear structures, right, to protect them from attack? >> reporter: that's right. this report makes it clear that the iranians are concerned about the threat of an attack from the outside whether it be from the u.s., israel or some other ally in the region. so they've dug underground, they've made a lot of hardened facilities, and so they are making every effort to try to protect those nuclear infrastructure sites from an attack from the outside, jon. jon: iran, obviously, we're looking at video of one of their
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war games parades now. they try to parade themselves as militarily very powerful. what does the report say about that? >> reporter: well, no question about that. it does point to one weakness though. it says that the iranian air force depends on a lot of 1970s u.s. aircraft for its air force, and so to try o counteract that, they've tried to create some of their own indigenous military aircraft. it's not clear how effective they will be in the air. they're also working on a surface-to-air missile system they're trying to get from the russians which they think would be effective to counteract an attack, but in terms of the eye yang air force, it's aging rapidly. jon: mike emanuel at the pentagon, thank you. limited flights resuming at airports in paris. switzerland reopening its air space after five days of grounded flights. but most british air space remains shut down right now. this amid concerns from an
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international pie lots' group warning that ash in the air remains a danger. meteorologists saying iceland's still-erupting volcano is not finished yet. they are warning of more choked-up air space and flight cancellations to come. mike tobin is streaming from london's heathrow airport, a place he has become very familiar with. mike, this has been sort of an on again/off again crisis, huh? >> reporter: yeah, it really has been, jon. there's a great deal of frustration here in england after british airways announced flight would be resuming tonight out of heathrow airport, and then that volcano kicked out another big cloud of ash, and everything now sits on the tarmac. there has been some relief across europe, as you mentioned. about half of the flights are taking off right now and a very welcome sight in the skies over england were big streaks of jet trails showing that someone somewhere is getting where they need to go. but because of the fact that the european carriers are able to fly over edge land, that has has
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prompted a meeting with aviation, government and airline officials in which the airlines are going to present the argument that if europe can fly over england, why can't you free up the big hubs in the south of england, namely heathrow and galt wick? meantime, some long-haul carriers have taken off out of asia enroute for loan on the done. if they get here and the air space is still closed, they're going to divert to scotland or continental europe. jon: how are the passengers coping with this indecision? >> reporter: there has been a little bit of relief, primarily from the royal navy. thal by onpicked up a load consisting of some $500 -- 500 british soldiers trying to make their way home from afghanistan. everyone else is trying to pack their way onto the ferries, rent cars, hire taxis, by hook and by crook these people are trying to get home. jon: and the volcano is not exactly cooperating, is it?
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>> reporter: it really isn't. you get to these points where it's only spewing out lava, and everyone sighs a big sigh of relief, but that glacier melts, that becomes a big cap of rock. it seals it off for a little while, builds up pressure and then, pow, you get another big plume of ark, the whole -- ash, the whole problem starts again. jon: mike tobin at heathrow airport where he himself has been stranded. thank you. i have jean a government watchdog is saying recent changes to the mortgage assistance program in this country may make it more absolutely they'll to fraud. that is the warning from neil barofsky, the special inspector general for the troubled asset relief program that you've heard so much about, the $700 billion bailout fund for wall street. jenna, why are we getting this warning now? jenna: okay, so $75 billion is being used for this mortgage modification program, and what neil barofsky said about a month
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ago was you can't continue to give people short-term, temporary relief on their mortgages. you're going to have to reduce the principal payment, what the home is actually worth according to the mortgage. right now one out of four of us are underwater in our homes meaning we're paying more through our mortgages than what the value of the home really is. when you get temporary relief, it's not really helping you that much, it's just delaying the inevitable. so what is happening now, is barofsky saying some lenders are reducing the principal, but we'r'rnot really watching to see what they're doing. jane: what type of fraud are we talking about? jenna: they're being tight-lipped, but really, really steep up-front payments, for example, that's one of the things they're starting to see. so just these extra fees that shouldn't be there. jane: what about worst case scenario? jenna: well, you keep someone in their home long enough they get a job and reduce the principal to give them incentive to keep
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paying their loan. the worst case is we see way more foreclosures than we saw last year. last year we saw 2.8 million, this year barofsky says we're on track for 3.7 million. for those of us who have paid and struggled to pay our mortgages and haven't gotten relief, when you start thinking about that amount, it really hits home. that's not one person per foreclosure, that's an entire family. jane: jon? jon: a brazen bank robber on the loose. he's met a bunch of banks already, but now cops say they may be closing in. harris faulkner has the latest. also, there's a reason the u.s. military is the best in the world at disaster response. strap on your seat belts for a ride-along with the men and women who come to the rescue. p
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jon: breaking news out of philadelphia, the feds and police are hot on the trail of this guy. take a look. joseph bair is his name. he's a convicted wang robber -- bank robber just out on parole, but police think he's up to his old tricks again hitting three banks since last week, but the spree may be about to end. tim is live at the national desk, he has more information for us. >> yeah, jon. police and the fbi are really hoping so. he's known as the mcnabb bandit because he's known to go to these banks in philadelphia eagles' garb. we've been talking to our station down there, he doesn't
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really do much to hide his identity. his name is joseph baer, he's 39. they say this guy has an addiction, he is a gambling addict, and they don't think he's going to stop robbing banks anytime soon. harris: well, and what i've been able to learn is it's that gambling addiction that has him in trouble. because he's so easy to spot, that may be why he went undercover for a while. he's come back onto the landscape, it would be that addiction that would have him come out wearing that donovan mcnabb jersey again. clearly, every place he goes has surveillance cameras. >> can exactly. they do say he is expected to strike again, he's been known to go to chester in atlantic city and gambling his robbing money away. he's 5-10. anyone with information is asked to contact the fbi or the u.s. marshall's office. that's the latest we have here from the assignment desk. harris: and the wildcard always is whether or not somebody will
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turn violent, so whether it's the tip line or 9111, if you spot this guy, call right away. back to you guys. jon: thank you both. harris: sure. jane: about 16 minutes past the hour. "happening now" in your top box, somali pirates with their farthest offshore target to date hijacking ships more than 1200 miles off the somali coast. in the middle box, space shuttle discovery landing this morning at the kennedy space center in florida. that's a nice shot, isn't it? oh, let it go. it was a pretty one this morning. and on your bottom box supreme court justice stevens reaching a major milestone today, turning 90 while still serving on the court. only the second justice ever to do that. the other was oliver wendell holmes. jon: the u.s. military response to natural disasters is the envy of the world, and those recovery missions in haiti, chile or afghanistan, they require a lot of special training. right now in the arizona desert
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operation angel thunder is underway. it's a multiagency exercise prepping america's troops for the next disaster wherever it might be. adam houseley is live at davis air force base in tucson, arizona. he has a look at this project for us there. >> reporter: hey, jon. yeah. we've seen a lot of those operations, as you know, around the globe. this one here is all about a scenario, search, rescue and recovery involving the air force, 17 other nations here as well. behind me you can hear some of the helicopters, hueys, taking off, taking part in today's operations. yesterday we went out as a scenario was called in about people that were injured and pinned down. more than 1200 troops from the u.s. and 17 other countries all converge on the southwestern desert for two weeks of intense live-fire training. >> we don't care who we have to recover, you know? to us it's about saving a person's life, and we're
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reactionary force. we're ready at a moment's notice. >> reporter: called operation angel thunder, this is the air force's only full-scale training exercise dedicated to the mission of search, rescue and recovery. over my shoulder right now in this scenario we're flying over the arizona desert so along for our support we have two apache attack helicopters. as live rounds rip through the desert providing cover, pararescue is met with simulated casualties. they're airlifted out from first call to return to the base, the life-saving mission expected to be completed in just one hour. so, jon, as this huey gets ready to take off behind me, again, watching operation angel thunder there is a civilian aspect about this as well. yesterday it was about live fire and the potential of the rescue taking place in a military
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situation. they're also practicing for stuff like earthquakes, anything else that might face the united states or people asking for our help. jon: no question they are the best, witness what happened in haiti. adam houseley, thank you. >> reporter: absolutely. jane: is your kids' school lunch a threat to national security? you're about to hear a retired admiral make that case. plus, the fda is making a major push to limit how much salt you eat. will the government take the spice out of life and the thrill out of cooking? ♪
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jane: "happening now" in your top box, the pentagon says it
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will move american military assistance to yemen's special operates force -- operations force targeting al-qaeda in that country. up from 67 million last year. in the middle, china's getting ready for a national day of mourning. tomorrow, it'll be for the more than 2,000 people killed in the recent earthquake there. and on the bottom, a spokesman denying reports the palestinian president has some sort of heart troubles. the spokesman says abbas is in good health. jon: the fda is planning an unprecedented effort to reduce the salt americans consume each day. less sodium in everything would prevent thousands of deaths from hypertension and heart disease h this country. brian wilson has more on that from washington. why the assault on salt, brian? >> reporter: well, jon, of course it's because your government cares about you and because not think -- does not think you are capable of
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regulating your salt intake. the fda is considering a plan to gradually reduce the amount of salt in various foods that you eat, especially the salt that's in processed foods. why? medical professionals say although we need a small amount of salt to live, americans consume way more than they need, and as you said, can contribute to high blood pressure, high blood pressure leads to heart attacks and strokes. so the fda is involved in discussions with various food manufacturers to over time reduce the amount of salt in the foods. hasn't started yet, still in the discussion phase, jon. jon: so when are we talking about? is this going to happen soon? >> reporter: well, the government is hoping that since this is going to be done over ten years you won't even notice that your food is slowly but surely getting more and more bland until it has all the taste and appeal of cardboard. but the salt institute, and, yes, believe it or not there really is a salt institute, they think this is all unnecessary. morton satton told "the washington post" when the body
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consumes too much salt, it gets rid of the salt. jon: i have seen some food companies advertising right here on fox, you know, reduced salt this and that. how do they look at the whole problem? >> reporter: well, some are voluntarily starting to limit salt, but they want to do it in a way that does not offend consumers. you know, many people believe salt makes food more tasty. you take away the salt, the food is less tasty. there's another concern here, jon, and it has to do those foods that are inherently salty like pickles. how do you make a pickle that is not salty? is it possible to do so? so those are some of the things they're concerned about. here's the bottom line, jon. if be you get food on your plate and it's not salty enough, what do you do? you pick up the salt shaker, and you add a little salt. so is it really the government's job to do that for us? i mean, after all, if we're likely to then pick up the salt shaker and add the salt anyway, do we need their involvement? that's the question some people are cg.
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jon: maybe they will license salt shakers one of these days. >> reporter: over my dead body. jon: thanks. jane: are school cafeterias jeopardizing national security? according to a group of retired military officers the answer is, yes. they say the school lunch programs in this country are making our young people so overweight they're getting rejected by the armed services in record numbers, and that means future recruiting is in jeopardy. james burnett jr. is a retired navy rear admiral. thanks for your time. weight problems are now the leading reason recruits are yes jekylled -- rejected. >> jane, that's right, and it's of major concern to this retired mill gaer group we have here. 75% of our young people between the ages of 17-24 right now are not eligible to join the military even if they want to. so this becomes, really, a national security problem. we've got about, i guess, over the last three decades childhood
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obesity has tripled. so we've got a national problem here. jane: do you find it ironic that the school lunch program was originally conceived and instituted because there was the opposite problem, potential recruits were not getting enough to eat? >> it is ironic. back in the 1940s the military realized recruits coming in were underneuroriched, and they advocated for the school lunch program in 1946. now we have a different problem. it's the type of nourishment we're getting and too much of it. we need to move toward healthier programs, and the schools are a great praise to do that because -- place to do that because 40% of the nutrients children receive are received at school. jane jane but you know what the cafeteria ladies will say, we're trying our best, but that other 60%, they get those calories outside. it's up to the parents and the community to help them eat better. there's only so much we can do, and they say they're taking too much of the share of the blame. >> i'm not going to blame the
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lunch ladies. i think they try to put forth healthy meals. but it is a global problem. it takes families, it takes everybody to jump in, but the fact of the matter is we've got junk food and high-calorie drinks that are still available in schools, and we need to do something about that. we need to make sure that we have funding to have more healthy lunches that are more appealing to children, and we need to make sure there's more access to programs both for children and their parents that help adopt healthy lifestyles. jane admiral, some may say this is the pot calling the kettle black because if you go into a mess hall with the military, it's pretty much all you can eat and there's plenty of cholesterol there. >> the military has made major advances in making sure that our soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines get healthy meals and get the training they have to make healthy choices. jane: good to see you, admiral. thanks for your time. >>thanks, jane.
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jon: president obama is looking for bipartisan support for his plans to overhaul america's financial system. at a fundraiser last night, though, mr. obama didn't sound like he was trying to win republican friends. >> i'll be honest, it would have been nice if we'd had a little more help from the other side of the aisle sometimes. [applause] any help. [laughter] and -- just a smidgen of help. [laughter] and i've been disappointed sometimes that little smidge john hasn't been more forthcoming. jon: so can the president win bipartisan support? bipartisan support? we'll take a look at what's inh] this bill and what's not next. o. to be better. to win. but sometimes even rivals realize they share a common goal. america's beverage companies have removed full-calorie soft drinks from schools,
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cain jane we want to get to some major developments on capitol hill concerning financial overhaul legislation. it means a lot to all of us and the financial institutions we use. steny hoyer has announced that democrats are now willing to
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scrap a $50 billion fund. this was the fund that would cover any future bailout costs or some future bailout costs anyway for companies that fail. this was previously a key component of the president's plans. let's get to peter barnes from fbn. peter, as we stand here now, have they gotten rid of that $50 billion fund that became so controversial? >> reporter: well, not exactly, jane. this is a $50 billion poker chip and a gigantic poker game over legislation on capitol hill that's designed to make sure we don't have another financial crisis, god willing, and if we do, the taxpayers don't have to pay trillions of dollars to bail out the financial system. it looks like democrats are using this as a negotiating chip with republicans in the senate to try to get a bill through the senate maybe starting next week, late this week, early next week. and at the end of the day, jane, sources tell me, though, even if they get rid of this $50 billion fund that republicans have criticized, there will probably
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be some kind of mechanism like a resolution fund or something in which the taxpayers do advance money in the case of a financial crisis in the case a big firm is going down, and if it failed, it could take down the entire financial system with it. a fund that would provide working capital as that firm is taken over by the government and then wound down with as little disruption as possible. something like that will probably end up in the final bill. jane: and, peter, i know you've been tracking, also, the government's fraud case against mold michigan saks. what's the latest at this hour? >> reporter: well, goldman sachs this morning reported a blockbuster first quarter earning $3 and a half billion, and this just barely a year, jane, after it was bailed out by the federal government, got billions of dollars. so the firm is doing very well. analysts did ask the firm about this lawsuit that the sec has brought against goldman sachs alleging fraud in a complicated securities transaction.
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the company said this morning that it plans to proceed with this case in court, but it left the door open for a possible settlement with the government. jane? jane: peter barnes in d.c. peter, thanks. jon: with hot button issues like financial reform looming over washington, president obama says he's looking for bipartisan support. but the president still can't resist a dig at the gop every now and then. listen to what he said to some democratic donors last night in los angeles. >> you would have expected that republican leaders would have been willing to help out cleaning up after this mess since they had more than a little to do with creating it. [cheers and applause] and we all have a stake in cleaning it up. we're all, after all, americans. not democrats, not republicans first, we're americans first. jon: we're american first, he says. so does the attitude help or
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hurt in getting both sides on board? joining us now, senator orrin hatch. he is a utah republican who sits on the senate finance committee. he recently sat down for meetings with treasury secretary tim geithner. first of all, the president's plans, or the democratic plans as laid out by senator christopher dodd, what are the primary problems that republicans have with them? >> well, number one, we don't want this to be a bailout bill, another bailout bill because we don't believe we should be doing bailouts unless it's the most stringent possible difficulties, and we shouldn't be socking it to the taxpayers. secondly, where's fannie mae and freddie? they're not part of this. thirdly, they want a consumer protection group in here that would be in the federal reserve another layer of bureaucracy. look, the small banks throughout the country, the small businesses throughout the country didn't cause these problems, and yet they would be saddled with an awful lot of the costs. how do you wind down if you do have a business that goes out of
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whack, how do you wind it down? this bill doesn't, this bill turns it over to the fdic which is not as capable of winding it down as our bankruptcy courts are. there are a number of things -- i don't know of a republican who doesn't want to have a good financial regulatory reform bill. we all want that. i think the fact that they're moving towards getting that $50 billion out is a positive, but the president really hasn't wanted that. i know secretary geithner hasn't wanted that, and that's just been put in there by democrats. i just hope they're not doing what they did on the health care bill, that is consult with us and then reject every basic suggestion we made, some of which would have made that health care bill so much better than it was. so these are some of the concerns we have. plus -- jon: well -- >> you know, we know it's going to cost an arm and a leg too. jon: and there is still a significant amount of finger pointing coming from the white house. take another listen of more of what the president had to say last night, and then i want to
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get your reaction on the other side. >> and yet after driving our economy into the ditch, they decide to stand on the side of the road and watch us while we pulled it out of the ditch. they ask, why haven't you pulled it out fast enough? [laughter] i notice there's, like, a little scratch there on the pender, why didn't you do something about that? [laughter] [cheers and applause] jon: now, admittedly, he is speaking to a democrat audience there, it was a fundraiser for senator barbara boxer, but i don't know, you're a senator, a republican senator, tell me how does that kind of talk help move the process along? >> well, it was a political talk. we all make allowances for that and, of course, for barbara boxer, one of the most liberal in the history of the senate, i don't get hurt by that. but the problem is they really don't work with us. they really don't try. and what they try to do is get one senate republican and then call it a bipartisan bill.
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when republicans have a lot of good ideas in this area, and we have a lot of republicans who'd be willing to work with them. over the years i have a reputation for working with democrats on health care, you name it. and not effort to try and get us to work together the. it's take it or leave it is the attitude, and what we see is more and more bureaucracy, more and more cost saddled on the states, saddled on small businesses, saddled on smaller banks when it's really about 25 banks at the top that have, that have, you know, that have the major problems. and by the way, this whole goldman sachs thing, isn't that a little odd that all of a sudden right at the height of this legislative period we suddenly have the sec filing suit against gold withman saks -- jon: you think the timing of those charges is -- >> [inaudible] it's very suspect. secondly, think about it. goldman sachs on the deals that they're talking about was dealing with the most
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sophisticated people in the business. you know, and there's something terribly wrong here, and i don't know what it is, but to do that right at this particular time, yeah, the timing is very suspect in my eyes. now, look, i like the president. he's a very kleopfer, very talented, very articulate guy, but i'll tell you one thing, there's an arrogance of power. 59 democrat senators, an overwhelming majority in the house, and, look, when he blames us for the economy that he, quote, inherited, give me a break. over the last 34 years i've been in the senate, there have been very few times when you could say the fiscal conservatives were in the majority, and they certainly were not in the majority during the bush years. in other words, the same liberal big-spending crowd has always had the sway, and for him to blame republicans for that, i think, is just total, well, let's put it gently, bs.
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jon: senator orrin hatch of utah, a republican and a member of the finance committee. thanks. >> you bet. jane: imagine waking up five years from now to find out mahmoud ahmadinejad isn't just leading a nuclear nation, his missiles could potentially land in your backyard. a pretty frightening picture of what iran could develop in the next few years. in @útçñçpqç?p@÷@÷
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megyn: hi, everybody, i'm megyn kelly. the obama administration is going after goldman sachs, but will president obama give back the million bucks he got from goldman during his campaign? plus, the dixie chicks and a major court ruling that has some outraged. also, i went into the lion's den. how did it go on howard stern this morning? find out here. and how did the ladies on "the view" treat me when i swung by abc? you'll see that too. busy news day here, see you top of the hour. jon jon iran could build a
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missile capable of reaching the united states within five years, and leaders in tehran are keeping their options open when it comes to building a nuclear weapon. all of that in a new report sent to lawmakers on capitol hill. is this a game changer when it comes to how the obama administration deals with iran in the future? let's talk about it with james carafano, a defense and homeland security expert. he's with the heritage foundation. any surprises to you in this report? >> well, no. i mean, this actually is pretty much the same date they put out last year which was telling the administration treats us like we're not in crisis mode. jon: five years away from an icbm, the ability to deliver a nuclear weapon? >> two key things, one is these are estimates. we're living inside the margin of error, that basically means this could happen anytime, and just last week a senior official was proudly proclaiming we'll have a missile defense site in
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2018. that's, like, years after our most conservative estimate of when they'd have -- jon: part of the report suggests that iran would need help, foreign assistance. who would provide it to them? >> well, north korea. if you look at a north korea test and it's successful, and then you look at the next generation of an iranian missile, they kind of look alike. they share information, technology, so it's really one industrial base, not two, and when one guy makes a great advance, the other guy makes a great advance. jon: mahmoud ahmadinejad tries to portray himself as this soft spoke isen, you know, courtly sort of leader, but in many respects he is perceived as, well, a guy -- i mean, a nut. but maybe a nut with a nuke one of these days. >> there's two important things there. one is he has been directly mocking the president. i mean, our program has no initiative. and just last week he held a nuclear summit to mimic our
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nuclear summit. what he was really doing was making fun of our president saying that our defense programs are just a joke. jon: this is a president who was elected, though, on a promise to sit down with the iranians. >> right. and, you know, one of the undiscussed reasons of why iran really wants a bomb is if you want to sup rest internal dissent, be a nuclear power. the first reason ahmadinejad wants a bomb is they can crush all internal dissent forever, and they get a get out of jail free card from the entire international community, and then they can turn and aim at the rest of the world. this is an incredibly dangerous thing, and what's maddening for me about what our administration is doing, they present it as if we're not in a crisis mode, and we absolutely are. jon: but the administration has gotten tougher on iran, right? >> that's not true at all. first of all he said, we're going to talk. that was plan a. that failed. yeah, we had to do that to get tough sanctions. well, that's failed, too, and there is no plan c.
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that was the big news in the gates memo, the government's admitting there is no plan c, they have no initiative because we're the only people that can do this. the russians aren't going to do it, the chinese, the neighbors, they're all looking to us, and the president has overtly stated he doesn't want to keel with this issue -- deal with this issue, so we're kind of stuck. jon: thank you. we want to know what you think. is iran our most dangerous threat at this point? log on to, click on the you decide link on our home page. weigh in on this question and see what other viewers are talking about right now. jane? jane: it's the case of the cop versus the cyclist. did you see this videotape? the officer in it could go to prison for knocking this guy off of his bicycle. the officer's attorney the, though, says it's what you don't see on this tape that is crucial. there he goes. we'll break it down. finish w
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jane: former new york city police officer on trial today acaused of attacking an activist who was on a bicycle in a protest through times square. you may have seen this. a tourist caught it on video. for the people who watched it on youtube, a lot of them say the officer, patrick, body slams that cyclist and knocks him right off the bike. but his attorneys say there is far more to this story than what is in the clip. so how do you defend this? similar cases where video evidence was used against his client, r.j., what's your first step? just planting the doubt in the jury's mind there was something off-camera they didn't see? >> thank you for having me back on, jane. you want to pick an unbiased jury.
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you need to make sure everybody who has seen or heard about the video could be the most fair and impartial jury possible. and you want to tell the jury that you don't judge a movie by the last 30 seconds of what you see on the film, and that's important because there's other perspective. the officer had things to worry about like the public safety perception, and that camera really didn't catch everything. in other words, you want to tell the jury if there was a fight that was caught on video and the last half of the fight was only videotaped, you'd want the jury to know what happened before the video started. so you want to show the perspective from different witnesses, possibly from the police officer and other patrons that were at this event. jane: when you look at this tape over and over, it's breast -- interesting because it does look like the officer specifically picks the cyclist out, could you use that as part of your defense? >> right. like i said before, you need to establish there was a movie, there was something going on beforehand, not this one incident.
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if you play that video over and over again, it seems somewhat suspect because the officer takes him and does body slam him, but you have to ask yourself, why would the police officer do that? i'm a former new yorker, i will tell you they're not going to believe the officer did this for no reason. if you give them any logical reason this officer did it, they may accept that and give the officer the benefit of the doubt. jane: his attorneys have made the case that the cyclist was purposefully ramming the officer. it's a little tough to tell even though we're spot shadowing it here. this cop, i should say, faces prison in this case too. does it affect the case because the cyclist, any charges against him were dropped and he settled with the city. >> okay. well, remember, in order to get a not guilty verdict, the level is beyond a reasonable doubt. and although the officer may have done things that another officer may have done differently, you need to explain to the jury that under this
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situation his subjective belief, meaning that the officer's reasonable belief for the public safety was to take this guy down. how else was the officer supposed to arrest this person? just run next to the bicyclist and say, excuse me, sir, could you, please, slow down? i'm going the arrest you? that's preposterous. if you explain the only way he was able to arrest him was to take him down, then the injury, all they -- jury, all they need is one explanation, and the whoo's going to come -- why's going to come from another perspective that you and i haven't heard yet. jane: it wasn't like this guy was riding through times square, he was part of a protest, and the officers were told that they were allowed to stop them if they were breaking traffic rules. r.j., good to see you, thanks. >> thank you. jon: a tech web site claims to have a prototype of the next generation iphone. the group says it fell into their hands after someone left it behind at a california bar. true story or truly clever
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marketing? megyn kelly gets to the bottom of it just ahead on "america live." plus, folks in one pennsylvania town getting a unique shopping experience at the local pharmacy. [laughter] how a deer got into the right-aid and how she got out. jane: look at her go. jon: next. ♪
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jane: here's more of the video from just outside philadelphia, take a look, they were in the chopper at sky fox and they captured this deer breaking out of the rite aid drugstore and look at her go! it happened in the town of ardmore, flying out of there like a shot. how she got in there in the first place, i don't know. you can imagine it left shoppers and drivers stunned and nobody came close according to the pictures of even tt


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